All is not well around Manchester United who, again lost in another lack-luster performance. This time a 3-0 drubbing at the hands Bournemouth at Old Trafford on Sunday. But it didn’t stop match-goers from singing Carrick's song in support.

As this goes out there is no club statement on Michael Carrick's future. That is the fact to hold on to and one that many expect to change very soon citing the Bournemouth game as the final nail in the coffin. Plenty have predicted he will go, and most of these same voices think it is not the only dismissal that should happen, pointing at sporting director, Jason Wilcox and CEO, Omar Berrada as equally, if not more, culpable for the clubs dire circumstances.

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It capped off another busy news week, and still not for good reasons, for United in which captain Bruno Fernandes criticised the manager's tactics in public, and the manager answered him. Carrick then left the captain out against Bournemouth and didn’t choose to bring him on even when commentators suggested he might. Carrick has not said his own position is safe. The reporting below is labelled so you can see which parts are on the record and which are other people's predictions.

The leading story

Bournemouth 3-0 United is confirmed. Rayan, Marcus Tavernier and Evanilson scored, and Bournemouth were 2-0 up at half-time. This was their first away win of the season. United are now 16th on seven points (Confirmed, ESPN [10]). Carrick dropped Bruno Fernandes to the bench (Confirmed, ESPN [10]).

After the game, Carrick said: "I'm not expecting anything in particular, to be honest" and "I'm carrying on as normal" (Confirmed, ESPN [10]). He said he had "really mixed emotions" about a crowd that applauded him off while directing anger at the players and owners [10].

Gary Neville said on Sky it is "going to get ridiculously difficult" for Carrick (Attributed, via ESPN [10]).

The Athletic's Cerys Jones describes the end of the game in detail. Carrick walked the length of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand and the Stretford End applauding as his song rang out, with his players about 15 yards behind him, and the boos were loud as soon as he was in the tunnel (Reported, The Athletic [18]). She says the chants were aimed at the Glazers, Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Wilcox, whom one chant named, and were mixed in with songs for Carrick, and that a "Standards" tifo showing Cantona, Keane and Robson went up in the first half [18].

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On the football, Jones writes that United were more compact and conservative out of possession but offered almost nothing on the counter-attack, that the set-piece lapse for Bournemouth's opener was hard to believe, that Leny Yoro's hesitation and slip gifted the second goal and that Senne Lammens was left stranded for Evanilson's finish (Reported, The Athletic [18]). Asked whether Wilcox or Berrada should speak to journalists or supporters, Carrick said "It's not for me to say who speaks", adding that his own role is to speak for the team and the club (Attributed, via The Athletic [18]).

The other key developments

The Fernandes row. After the 4-1 Champions League defeat at Como, Fernandes said: "It's a decision from the staff to not press man to man" (Confirmed, his own words [1]). Carrick replied that United "half-pressed man-to-man the second half and then conceded a goal from that", and called the performance "unacceptable" in places (Confirmed [2]). Rio Ferdinand backed Fernandes's substance, saying United were "toothless in attack" (Attributed [3]). TNT's Cole called the comments "sacrilege" (Attributed [4]), and Roy Keane had already questioned Fernandes's body language on 15 October (Attributed [5]).

Carrick's Friday speech. He opened his press conference with a five-and-a-half-minute statement. He said "we've kind of lost our way a little bit" and would not rule out dropping Fernandes (Confirmed, consistent across outlets I haven't opened individually [9]). He also said the dressing room is "not divided" [9]. Carrick said Fernandes's Cheshire home was burgled on Wednesday night while the player was in Italy [9].

Martínez. Lisandro Martínez criticised director of football Jason Wilcox after the 2-0 Atlético defeat on 13 October, then apologised on 15 October (Confirmed, Al Jazeera/Reuters [13]). The Athletic recalls his post-Atlético argument that changing the manager again ignores other parts of the club, and says the Old Trafford crowd on Sunday showed they agreed (Attributed, Jones's reading [18]).

The squad and the counter-view. Senne Lammens said "we are united" behind Carrick (Confirmed, his own words [6]). Tony Pulis argued United need "stability, not more changes" and put more blame on recruitment (Attributed, BBC column, not opened [14]). Neville also said the problem sits above the manager, in recruitment and structure (Attributed [15]). The Athletic's Jones makes a similar argument from the stands: that the crowd's message was that blame should not fall on the man in the dugout alone, that whoever replaces Carrick inherits the same structure, and that it is fair to ask when those above him face the same accountability (Attributed, opinion [18]). She also writes that this may well be Carrick's last match in charge, which is her reading rather than a report of a decision [18].

Leeds. United drew 1-1 at Elland Road on 18 October, Dominic Calvert-Lewin equalising (Confirmed, Leeds United [8]).

Where sources agree — and disagree

Agree. Every outlet checked has Como at 4-1. The ledger's earlier 4-0 flag came from Football365, whose own metadata and body text contradicted each other. Everyone also agrees on the Bournemouth scoreline, Fernandes's benching, and the fact that Carrick is under pressure. On the scene at full time, Gary Neville's podcast [15] and the Athletic [18] describe the same things: a "Standards" display in the Stretford End in the first half, Carrick's name sung during the match and the players booed off.

Disagree on the facts: the winless run. Yahoo/Vavel has United "winless in eight" [11]. ESPN says nine [10]. Sky had it at seven before kick-off [6], which makes eight after a defeat. Counting the results since the 4-0 win over Sabah on 10 September gives eight games without a win: defeats by Manchester City (1-0), Brighton (3-2), Atlético Madrid (2-0), Como (4-1) and Bournemouth (3-0), and 1-1 draws with Fulham, Tottenham and Leeds. Eight is right and ESPN's nine is the outlier.

Disagree on the facts: Martínez's fine. The BBC reportedly said he was fined, but Reuters says the club has not confirmed it [13]. It is unresolved.

Disagree on sourcing: the "INEOS deadline". CaughtOffside relayed one journalist's X post saying INEOS set a three-game deadline (Attributed, Nicolò Schira [7]). No club statement or second named source backs it, and Sky does not repeat it [6].

Disagree on interpretation. Cole and Keane say Fernandes should have kept his concerns private [4][5]. Ferdinand backs his complaint [3].

Disagree on what a sacking would change. Neville predicts Carrick will go, but he, Pulis and the Athletic's Jones all put the deeper fault above the manager [14][15][18]. They differ on what follows: Pulis says keep him, Neville expects the club to act, and Jones calls his position possibly untenable while asking about accountability above him.

The succession names. The Guardian reports that Wilcox favours Eddie Howe and Christopher Vivell favours Julian Nagelsmann (Reported, original not opened [16]). Antonio Conte and Fabian Hürzeler have publicly played down talk of the job (Confirmed, their own words, via ESPN [17]). Klopp and Simeone appear only in pundit wish-lists (Speculation).

Unknown. Whether a decision has been taken, and what the club's board actually discussed. Nothing on the record says either way. A club statement would settle it.

What it means

In the Como, Atlético and Bournemouth games United have conceded nine goals and scored one, and the dressing-room argument is now public. Two senior players have spoken out in ten days, and the manager's answer was to drop one of them. The pressure is no longer just about results. On the pitch, the Athletic reports a more compact, conservative out-of-possession set-up that gave little on the break, with Tielemans faring no better than Fernandes had in linking play [18]. Nothing in the sources says whether that was a response to Fernandes's pressing complaint after Como.

The United Roundup view

Opinion.

Michael Carrick was visibly upset and angry for most of the game as he watched his side give another sub-standard showing in front of their own supporters and fail to win in the eighth game in a row. And this was a theme on the day as a giant tifo featuring images of Cantona, Keane and Robson with the word “Standards” underneath was unveiled at the Stretford End. Carrick apologetically clapped the fans while he did a lap as his players sheepishly followed some yards behind. And the moment he exited from view down the tunnel the crowd turned instantly hostile towards the exiting players. Songs were heard taking aim at the ownerships and hierarchy throughout the game too.

It’s too easy to read the week as a manager losing a dressing room and that’s not really the story anyway. The talk and speculation may suggest it is all but a done deal that Carrick will lose his job in the week but he has been publicly contradicted by two players, has stood his ground, and has lost 3-0 at home with the crowd backing him and turning on everyone else. A crowd that applauds the manager and boos the team is telling the club something, though not necessarily what the board wants to hear. Who the ownership above Wilcox and Berrada are listening to remains to be seen. And when we get a decision either way concerning the manager's position and a plan going forward, that's when we can make a better judgement call.

The thing I'd be wary of is treating a sacking as already decided despite the noise. Almost everything pointing that way is a prediction, a second-hand rewrite or a single post. The one on-the-record statement from Carrick is that he does not know. If the board does act, the harder question is the one Neville and Pulis both raised from opposite sides: whether changing the manager again fixes anything above him. My view is unless people are replaced all the way to the top of the pyramid at the club then nothing will change. Unfortunately this miracle would have to mean someone is willing to buy the Glazers debt and reset the club on firmer foundations.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bruno leave the club or hand in a transfer request if his recent instagram activity is anything to go by. He was seen to like a post with the quote “Never push a loyal person to the point they don’t care”.

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What would change my view: a club statement, or a second named outlet confirming the board's discussions. If Carrick survives the week and the next result is a performance rather than another collapse, the "inevitable" narrative , as surprising as it may sound, looks premature.

What comes next

The fixtures come quickly. United play Chelsea on Sunday 1 November, with a 12.30pm kick-off, and host Roma at Old Trafford on Tuesday 3 November, kicking off at 8pm.

The bigger question is who is in the dugout for them. As of Monday night there is no club statement on Michael Carrick's future. A decision is still awaited from the owners and the hierarchy, and it could come before the Chelsea game. Nothing on the record says when, or which way it will go.

Watch for a club statement on Carrick, any named-outlet reporting of what the board decides, whether Bruno Fernandes keeps the armband, and any availability updates ahead of Sunday.

Sources compared [1] Goal.com — Bruno Fernandes slams Michael Carrick's tactics after Como loss · Confirmed · 21 Oct [2] Football365 — Carrick bites back at Fernandes · Confirmed · 21 Oct [3] Football365 — Ferdinand on Fernandes ("won a raffle") · Attributed · 21 Oct [4] Football365 — Cole on Fernandes, "sacrilege" · Attributed · 21 Oct [5] FourFourTwo — Roy Keane on Fernandes · Attributed · 15 Oct [6] Sky Sports — Senne Lammens: players are united behind Carrick · Confirmed (Lammens quote); Reported (Sky's framing) · 24 Oct [7] CaughtOffside — Board issues "decisive ultimatum" to Carrick (Nicolò Schira) · Attributed · 14 Oct [8] Leeds United — Report: Leeds 1-1 Manchester United · Confirmed · 18 Oct [9] Manchester United (manutd.com) — Carrick's Friday press conference; headline and summary confirmed, full detail from BBC, Telegraph, Mail, Athletic and ESPN · Confirmed · 23 Oct [9a] Manchester United (manutd.com) — Carrick: I understand what we can achieve (Friday press conference) · Confirmed · 23 Oct [9b] Carrick's full Friday press conference (video, primary recording; not watched) · Confirmed (Carrick's own words) · 23 Oct [9c] BBC Sport — Carrick refuses to rule out dropping Fernandes in emotional address · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9d] Daily Mail — Michael Carrick's five-minute monologue · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9e] Daily Mail (Chris Wheeler) — Defiant Michael Carrick's monologue was straight out of the Sir Alex Ferguson playbook · Attributed (opinion; original not opened) · 23 Oct [9g] The Athletic (Andy Mitten) — Michael Carrick has come out fighting · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9h] The Athletic — Michael Carrick says Manchester United have lost our way · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9i] The Athletic (Tim Spiers) — Michael Carrick's monologue was admirable but underlined why he is not the man to revive Man United · Attributed (opinion; original not opened) · 24 Oct [9j] The Telegraph — Carrick weighs up stripping Bruno Fernandes of Man Utd captaincy · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9k] The Telegraph — Michael Carrick: Man Utd are not unmanageable · Reported (original not opened) · 24 Oct [9l] Manchester Evening News — Carrick press conference live blog (headline unavailable) · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9m] Manchester Evening News — Carrick's passionate address (headline unavailable) · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9n] Manchester Evening News — three manager candidates emerge (headline unavailable) · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [9o] ESPN (Rob Dawson) — Michael Carrick: Under-pressure Man United boss '100%' backs himself amid tension (source for the speech length, five minutes 25 seconds) · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [10] ESPN — Bournemouth 0-3 United match report and Carrick/Neville quotes · Confirmed · 25 Oct [11] Yahoo Sports/Vavel — Bournemouth match report ("winless in eight") · Reported · 25 Oct [13] Al Jazeera (Reuters) — Martínez/Wilcox criticism and apology · Confirmed (events); Reported (fine disputed) · 13-15 Oct [14] Tony Pulis, BBC Sport — column on stability · Attributed via Yahoo · Oct [15] Gary Neville, post-match podcast · Attributed (not opened) · 25 Oct [16] The Guardian — Eddie Howe is Jason Wilcox's choice if Manchester United replace Michael Carrick · Reported (original not opened) · 23 Oct [17] ESPN — Conte and Hürzeler statements · Confirmed (their own words; not opened) · 23-24 Oct [18] The Athletic (Cerys Jones) — Old Trafford's mutiny made it clear: Michael Carrick's exit would not resolve Man Utd's problems · Reported (scene and match detail); Attributed (opinion) · 26 Oct